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Post by Falconer on Mar 1, 2010 14:18:49 GMT -5
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Post by Falconer on Mar 1, 2010 14:31:27 GMT -5
These are the Federation Constitution-class Starships that are actually shown on screen in TOS: NCC-1017 — U.S.S. Constellation | The Doomsday Machine | NCC-1701 — U.S.S. Enterprise | All Episodes | NCC-1703 — U.S.S. Lexington | The Ultimate Computer | NCC-1705 — U.S.S. Excalibur | The Ultimate Computer | NCC-1706 — U.S.S. Exeter | The Omega Glory | NCC-1707 — U.S.S. Hood | The Ultimate Computer | NCC-1711 — U.S.S. Potemkin | The Ultimate Computer | NCC-1717 — U.S.S. Defiant | The Tholian Web |
I reckon I’d give these precedence in naming the CCs/CAs of my miniature fleet.
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Post by finarvyn on Mar 1, 2010 15:59:17 GMT -5
I have a little box of miniatures and am trying to decide how many to collect. Your list will certainly move me in the right direction.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 1, 2010 19:19:17 GMT -5
Dreadnoughts: Obviously none are ever shown on-screen. Some of the radio chatter at the beginning of TMP (theatrical release) mentions U.S.S. Entente (NCC-2120), which is a Dreadnought per SFTM. Not that I care for TMP, but maybe someone will make the connection someday and get a kick out of it. The only other Dreadnought about which anything has been written is U.S.S. Star Empire (NCC-2116), which features in the novel Dreadnought! If I got a third Dreadnought, I guess I would call it U.S.S. Federation (NCC-2100), i.e. the prototype ship.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 1, 2010 19:27:27 GMT -5
Brainstorming about colors. From what I have read, these seem to be the official SFU base colors for the five main races’ ships: Klingons: blue-grey Federation: white Romulans: light grey Gorns: grey Kzintis: brick red Although practically every ship on TOS is some sort of grey, I definitely want a good contrast of colors for gaming purposes. Klingons: Green, like the one in TSFS, seems to be a popular choice. It’s a shame to use up a color associated with Gorns and Orions (think of their skin color), but I think I’ll go with it nevertheless. I think the color just goes best with an angular design. Federation and Romulans: The Enterprise is grey throughout TOS; the TOS Warbird is white. I wonder if the SFU went the other way around because people expected white Federation ships in the movie era. In this case I’ll go with TOS. Gorns: It would be a shame to go with grey for yet another race. There’s extra flexibility here since it was never shown on TV, so people don’t have any preconceived notion of what it ought to be. I think copper looks pretty sexy. Kzintis: TAS shows a purple Kzinti vessel. I would be perfectly happy with brick red, but I’m kind of thinking i’ve got to go with the purple for that authentic TAS feel!
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Post by aramis on Mar 1, 2010 22:41:25 GMT -5
Enterprise always looked white to me. Every photo of the pre-TMP Enterprise also looks white. The Movie era ships are light gray metal...
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Post by Falconer on Mar 1, 2010 23:53:24 GMT -5
Interesting, and perfectly valid. I know there’s always the question of lighting, as well as how color comes out on film. But these shots from Balance of Terror more-or-less represent how I see the colors (both screencaps from the same site):
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Post by aramis on Mar 2, 2010 2:37:08 GMT -5
Actual photo of the model, same source site as yours: And another, whiter looking, view from Balance of Terror (same site as well): Now, I would agree that the shuttle is a very light gray. But the ship? not more than 5% gray, if gray at all.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 2, 2010 14:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by finarvyn on Mar 2, 2010 16:17:09 GMT -5
Personally, I like the idea of the Federation having white ships. Just feels right somehow, since they are the good guys.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 2, 2010 19:59:42 GMT -5
Heh, that’s cool, guys, do whatever you want! Would you do Federation shuttles and base stations white, too, then? And what color would you do for Romulans?
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Post by aramis on Mar 3, 2010 4:52:43 GMT -5
The Shuttles are, on screen, clearly NOT white, and are darker than the interior of the bay doors, which are the same or nearly same difference as the ship's exterior and the shuttle...
But for simplicity, I'd go with the same shade, even tho the film CLEARLY makes the shuttles non-white.
The Romulan is the same base shade as the Enterprise... but the red chicken makes it quite distinct, as does the shape.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 3, 2010 20:23:19 GMT -5
Today I received a few more ships. I had ordered a pewter Federation DNG hoping to use it for a DN, and discovered to my chagrin that it is not shaped like a DN. The support pylons stick out horizontally rather than angling up diagonally. That means the plastic mini is the only acceptable mini to use for a DN. I was hoping to go all pewter, but I think I could live with a mix. All the paint jobs I have seen of the plastic CA look really good, too, so while I’m at it I may snag one of those and see how I like it in comparison with the pewter CC mini. It would certainly be more cost-effective, and it would make it easy to add the rest of the SFTM ships (scout/destroyer and tug) down the line if I wanted to.
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Post by Falconer on Mar 7, 2010 15:55:58 GMT -5
These are the Klingon D7-class Battlecruisers from TOS and TAS: Name | Episodes | Captain | Origin of Name | | Klothos | Errand of Mercy (implied) The Time Trap (shown) | Kor | The Time Trap | | Devisor | The Trouble with Tribbles (implied) More Tribbles, More Troubles (shown) | Koloth | Log Four | | Klolode | Day of the Dove (shown) | Kang | many early fan publications (?) |
I have seen the initials IKS used before Klingon ships’ names, but I have no idea where that comes from. I definitely do not think it is used in any TOS or TAS episode. Not that there is anything wrong with it. If you open it up to novels, there are more names that can be found: Vengeance from The Final Reflection, and Destructor from Trek to Madworld stand out to me so far. That gives me five names to work with, which is more than sufficient as I begin to build my D7/D6 fleet. They all match D7/D6 names in the official SFB ship names registry, too, except for Destructor (although there is a Destruction).
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Post by blackbat242 on Mar 14, 2010 1:35:37 GMT -5
Brainstorming about colors. From what I have read, these seem to be the official SFU base colors for the five main races’ ships: Klingons: blue-grey Federation: white Romulans: light grey Gorns: grey Kzintis: brick red Although practically every ship on TOS is some sort of grey, I definitely want a good contrast of colors for gaming purposes. Klingons: Green, like the one in TSFS, seems to be a popular choice. It’s a shame to use up a color associated with Gorns and Orions (think of their skin color), but I think I’ll go with it nevertheless. I think the color just goes best with an angular design. I prefer the blue-gray of TOS for the Klingons. Screenshot from Elaan of Troyius: I also like the gun-metal-gray version... perhaps I'll go with it: As noted above, the Enterprise was actually a gray with a hint of green. Gorns: It would be a shame to go with grey for yet another race. There’s extra flexibility here since it was never shown on TV, so people don’t have any preconceived notion of what it ought to be. I think copper looks pretty sexy. That or green... I don't use the later series/movie green Kilngon/Romulan colors.
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